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In this edition of E Hana Kakou, Grassroot President Keli’i Akina interviews Dale Evans, owner of Charley’s Taxi. After exploring the history of how taxi services developed in Hawaii–especially in contrast to the closed-market “medallion” systems often used in the mainland–Keli’i and Dale go on to discuss the place of government regulation in the industry. The revelation that Honolulu’s taxi services are fundamentally small (often family-owned) businesses creates a different perspective from which to consider the growth of unregulated ride-sharing services like Uber.

Watch the episode in its entirety below or click here to view on You Tube.